|
Samsung DLP HLN & HLN-W1 Series - 2003+ Models |
Mar |
|
|
Samsung DLP televisions are large screen, high definition, rear projection televisions (DLP RPTV). The first generation, HLM series, was introduced in late 2002. The second generation, HLN series started shipping in April 2003. An upgrade to HLN series, that we have labeled HLN-W1, has started shipping in February 2004. Now Samsung has announced the 2004 HLP line (See here) which is expected to start shipping in May 2004. This guide covers the HLN and HLN-W1 versions, although much of the content may be applicable to all versions.
If you are looking for an HDTV with these requirements, in 43 to 61 inch size range, and in $2500 to $4500 street price range, then we believe that Samsung DLP is your best choice. Others agree, see: ExtremeTech HDTV Quest: Samsung Takes the Crown + Gary Merson Interview
This guide leads you through a decision making process - whether to buy this TV and which model to buy. It then helps you in making the maximum use of your TV. Please also read DLP RPTV Update 2004 before making your decision.
Your choice for an HDTV will start with size and budget. For high definition, most consumers are opting to buy the largest screen size that they can fit in their room and budget. The TV choices for various sizes are:
|
15-40 inch |
40 – 80 inch |
80 inch plus |
|
CRT (Directview) LCD Panel |
Digital RPTV 4DLP LCD LCoS CRT RPTV Plasma |
Front Projector DLP LCD LCoS |
For you sitting rooms, and even for some large bedrooms, 40 to 80 inch sizes will be quite common. In this size range, you have three broad choices: a digital RPTV, a CRT RPTV or a Plasma. CRT RPTV’s are bulky and require frequent calibrations, but they are the least expensive. Plasmas are thin and sleek and have a great picture, but HD plasmas are very expensive and plasmas suffer from burn-in problems. So, the ideal choice in this size range is a digital RPTV -- it is a thin and lightweight tabletop display that is excellent at displaying your digital content. A digital RPTV can be DLP, LCD or LCoS. DLP is inherently superior to LCD RPTV in its picture quality, reliability and longevity, but LCD is less expensive. LCoS RPTV is also a promising technology, but it is not yet mature enough for consideration.
So currently DLP is the best choice in a digital RPTV. DLP technology is made by Texas Instruments. DLP offers a vibrant and luminous high quality picture. It has been well proven already in front projectors - and now leads high-end front projectors. It is blazing the trail for digital cinema in movie theaters. Only in the last 18 months has it been introduced in rear projection televisions. It is likely to become a mainstream HDTV technology for 40" or larger RPTV's. It is well proven, and it is here to stay. An interesting use: DLP and Samsung at Oscars.
Your HDTV must also meet these minimum requirements:
- It should display these HDTV and SDTV signals: 480i/p, 720p, 1080i.
- It must have at least one DVI/HDCP input - which should be purely digital. See DVI - A Practical Guide: Thread and Document .
- It must also support a good number of analog inputs. A VGA input is also highly desirable.
- If it is a fixed pixel display (DLP, LCD, LCoS or Plasma), its natural resolution (number of pixels) must be standard - 1280x720 or 1920x1080.
- Selection criteria should also include picture quality, view angle, price, versatility, features, audio quality, size and weight, reliability, longevity, maintenance.
- Black level is an issue to consider when buying an HDTV. A TV has the best black level when it shows a black part of the picture as true black, and can reproduce many shades of darkness in dark part of a scene. Direct view CRT televisions have the best black levels, LCD's have the worst, and DLP televisions are in-between.
Threads on Deciding on Samsung. Threads on Experience of Samsung Owners Threads on Reviews of Samsung
The advantages of this TV over other similar HDTV's are:
· It has an excellent vibrant and luminous picture. It is bright enough that it can be used in brightly lit rooms in daytime.
· It has a wide viewing angle for large rooms.
· It has a digital DVI input with HDCP. Because of its digital transmission, DVI significantly raises the quality of your video, and is a must for all HDTV's. HDCP will allow you to see copy protected content over DVI connections.
· Its native resolution is standard1280x720, unlike many other televisions that have non-standard resolutions.
· It is a very versatile TV, you can:
o Watch standard definition (SD) and high definition (HD) television,
o Watch your current DVD's in near high definition using a DVI equipped DVD player,
o Use it as a large screen monitor for an Home Theater PC (HTPC) and then use the computer for PC gaming, couch computing, backup DVD playback, photo slide shows, digital music - creating a whole new paradigm in digital entertainment,
o Play video games on XBox, PS2 or Gamecube.
· Because of DLP, this TV never ages. Its picture will be as new 5 years from now as it is today. The only thing you'd have to replace every 2-3 years is the ~$250 lamp. Few TVs in the market that have this advantage.
· It has no burn-in problems, so you can leave the TV on with a static picture for a long period of time without fear that the picture will be burnt in.
· It is a tabletop TV, not very deep (16" to 20") and lightweight (77 to 102 lbs).
· It has a great set of electronics for scaling and video processing - Faroudja DCDi and Samsung DNIe. It has a comprehensive set of features.
· It is made by Samsung. Samsung is quickly becoming one of the most respected brands in technology. Among DLP RPTV's, Samsung is the leader, has best performance and the best value, and is now proven technology in its second generation. See this Business Week cover story on Samsung.
· Price may be too hefty – in that case consider a CRT based RPTV. You may also find that LCD RPTV prices are also somewhat lower than DLP.
· A small percentage of people are susceptible to seeing rainbows produced by the rotating color wheel - check it out at a retailer before you buy.
· In any TV this size, standard definition programs and channels don't look as good as on smaller TV's. It is caused by a poor quality source, made worse by an analog connection, and then magnified by the size of the TV. It is a common problem with large screen TVs today. With Samsung HLN, you can actually alleviate some of the problem by using digital DVI input - and in our experience a majority of the channels and programs then look good to very good.
· You may prefer an LCD-RPTV like Sony Grand Wega II or III. LCD technology has poorer black levels, risk of bad pixels, and some risk of browning with usage. For LCD projection problems see article by Gary Merson in Perfect Vision (post). For LCD browning risk see ExtremeTech. However, LCD RPTV prices today are generally lower than Samsung HLN.
· You may prefer an LCoS RPTV like Philips Cineos. But LCoS is a very immature technology today and strictly for beta testers. It is likely to reach acceptable level of maturity by 2005.
· Plasma is flat, has better aesthetics and a slight edge in picture quality. However, plasmas have a burn-in risk, which make them unsuitable as computer monitors, gaming displays or for watching SDTV in its original 4:3 aspect ratio. Also, most people considering a plasma don’t realize that most popular plasmas sold today are not truly high definition, their native resolution falls short of the minimum 1280x720. Plasmas with high definition native resolution are very pricey -- a 50” true HD plasma is likely to be twice the price of a comparable digital RPTV. So, you should buy an HD plasma only if you are sure you can avoid the burn-in potential and you are OK with the much higher price.
Industry projections are that 7 million HDTV sets will be
sold in
All HLN and HLN-W1 series models have: (See Samsung Web Page, Brochure.)
· Texas Instruments HD2 DLP chip with a resolution of 1280x720p.
· Single DLP chip. In order to simulate a 3-chip display with a full range of colors, a 6 segment rotating color wheel with a speed of 9000 RPM is used. Because of double segments and faster rotation, this TV has significantly reduced the incidence of rainbows compared to many first generation DLP front projectors -- although a small percentage of people can still see them. One advantage of a single chip design is that there are no convergence issues with this TV.
· Brightness 400 cd/m2, Contrast > 1000:1. This set produces a very bright picture suitable for watching in daytime in well-lit rooms.
· Viewing angles: 150 degrees horizontal viewing angle. The practical horizontal viewing angle is about 120 degrees - which is more than sufficient for any room setting. The vertical viewing angle is much smaller - so it is not advisable in situations where you have to crane your neck to watch TV.
· Picture in Picture: can be either side by side, or in a PIP window in the bottom right corner in multiple sizes.
·
Five Picture formats: Wide, Panorama, Zoom1, Zoom2 or
· Cinema progressive 3:2 pull down
· Screen: Ultra-fine pitch screen .155 mm, Protective Anti-glare shield
· It has a significant number of Input Ports:
o 2 Antenna/RF inputs: with 181 channel Standard Definition channel tuner, 1 Antenna output
o 3 Composite/S-Video inputs – Composite/S-Video 3 is on the side of the TV. Note that Composite and S-Video ports share the same audio inputs.
o 3 Component inputs -- In HLN sets, Component 1 is 480i/480p, Component 2/3 are 480p/720p/1080i -- there is no component input that has thhe full range of inputs 480i/480p/720p/1080i which causes complexity in some setups like XBOX. In HLN-W1 sets, all component inputs accept all formats.
o 1 DVI input - DVI port supports HDCP/HDMI compliance, so that you can watch content that has been marked with HDCP. See Thread and Guide. Info. Most people agree that a TV like this needs more DVI ports - ideally 3.
o 1 VGA input. Unfortunately, VGA and DVI share the same audio input.
o In HLN-W1 sets, the inputs can be labeled, e.g. Component 1 = MyDVD.
· Faroudja DCDi FLI 2300 chip for video de-interlacing and scaling. It is reportedly the best electronics in the market today for this purpose.
· Samsung DNIe ((Digital Natural Image engine): optimizes the picture for all formats, from analog to high definition. It contains 4 enhancements -- motion optimizer, contrast enhancer, detail enhancer, and color optimizer.
· Sound: 30W (15Wx2 speakers) stereo audio, 2 way dynamic speakers, MTS Stereo with dbx, Virtual Dolby Sound, BBE Sound Enhancer
Fortune magazine favors Samsung DLP
Samsung HLN617W reviewed by Cnet
Samsung DLP HLM617W Review in PVM
Samsung DLP's are best selling TVs in their price range....
CNET review of Bravo D1: (See the "Performance" section in this review:)
"We connected the D1 to our DLP-based, fixed-pixel Samsung HLN617W via DVI, and the player produced some of the best pictures We've ever seen from a DVD source. When We set the output to 720p, the pristine digital images from Star Wars: Attack of the Clones looked downright spectacular. "
The HLN and HLN-W1 series have 7 models in 5 sizes - 43", 46", 50", 56" and 61". They have identical electronics and inputs. They vary only in size, looks, and price.
In moving from the first generation HLM series to the second generation, Samsung made these changes: 1) added two new sizes 46" and 56", 2) used the best electronics in all the sizes whereas in HLM only the 61" had the best electronics, 3) made some firmware improvements, and 4) made some cosmetic changes.
The model lineup can get pretty confusing. Because of the need to serve their high end as well as discount channels, Samsung has segmented the models into tiers. The reality is that all models share the same exact electronics, firmware and features. They only differ cosmetically, in size and in price.
The 43, 50 and 61 inch models were introduced in March/April 2003. The 46 and 56 inch models are being introduced in July/August 2003 as this version of the guide is being written. These 2 new models have some new evolutionary enhancements - most importantly discrete codes. These enhancements are already available in other models in the line as well. See Model/Firmware history.
The only non-cosmetic feature in the 46” and 56” models is a ledge for your center channel speaker on top of the TV.
The best way to select a model is to 1) Take your viewing distance dimension in inches, divide it by 2, and find a nearest model size. For example from a 9 foot distance, 9x12/2 = 54, so your ideal model sizes are 50" or 56". 2) If there is more than one model in that size, go for the one that has the best appearance for you or the one that is available most easily and at best price. Of course this is not a rigid rule, so you can buy smaller or larger models depending on your personal preferences.
Upgraded Samsung HLN-W1 Models (Reported 2/3/04, shipping reported 2/18/04)
Samsung has started shipping these upgrades of HLN models in late Feb. 2004, but with no substantial differences. We don't know if all models may eventually have an HLN-W1 version, and their availability may depend on when the inventory on the old ones clear out. The upgrades have the same model numbers as above, but have a ‘1’ suffix. To quickly find out if your set is HLN-W1, look for the model number on the outside of the box, or check the remote control, see picture on the right. Also see this Samsung HLN507W1 DLP TV is here... thread at AVSForum.
For more detailed information, see Interview with Steve Panosian, Director of Marketing, Samsung.
|
Upgraded HLN-W1 models have the same inputs as HLN sets, and the same dimensions. They have the same HD2 chip and six segment color wheel. The improvements are: - a new Remote control, - all 3 component inputs now take all formats 480i/p, 720p, 1080i, - new version of firmware, which also allows you to select a video input label, not enter your own. Please note that there are no picture quality differences from HLN sets. Also these upgraded models are the same as the HLN sets regarding audio/video synchronization. In our opinion, these differences are not substantial enough for most people to justify waiting for the new sets. |
|
Samsung cuts HLN prices: Press Release. We shall update street prices as they change.
|
43" |
46" |
50" |
56" |
61" |
|
40.5"x15.7"x29.7" W x D x H |
40.6"x16.1"x30.0" |
46.6"x17.6"x33.8" |
49.9"x18.2"x36.3" |
56.5"x19.4"x40.2"
|
|
67.2 lbs |
73.9 lbs |
77.6 lbs |
94.8 lbs |
101.9 lbs |
|
37.48 x 21.08 Screen W x H (Computed) |
40.09 x 22.55 |
43.58 x 24.51 |
48.81 x 27.46 |
53.17 x 29.90 |
|
Charcoal wider bezel, Silver Cabinet MSRP: $??
|
Ultra-thin Silver bezel, Gray cabinet, Center channel ledge MSRP: $??
|
Charcoal wider bezel, Silver Cabinet MSRP:$3699-3/3/04
|
Ultra-thin Silver bezel, Gray cabinet, Center channel ledge MSRP: $??
|
Charcoal wider bezel, Silver Cabinet MSRP:$4699-3/3/04
|
|
Silver 2" bezel, Silver Cabinet MSRP:$3199-3/3/04 Amazon/J&R $2500
|
|
Silver 2" bezel, Silver Cabinet MSRP:$3699-3/3/04 Amazon/J&R $3000
|
|
|
For HLN sets, if you have firmware version 214 or higher, then you have the latest known feature enhancements in this series. For HLN-W1 sets, the firmware history is in its infancy.
|
Version – Latest on top |
Features (blue means introduced in this version) |
|
HLN W1 Sets: have a completely new electronics and firmware |
Electronics and Firmware Features § All component inputs accept all formats § Inputs labels can be selected |
|
HLN Sets: Last reported firmware is 319 |
§ No new features introduced after 214 |
|
HLN467W, HLN567W Manufactured: July x 2003 to Now Firmware Version: 214 or higher |
Electronics Features § All: DNIe, 3D Comb Filter, DD1010 § RF/Video/480i: Faroudja FLI2300, VPC3230 § Component/480p: AD9883 § PC: JAGADC Firmware Features § Discrete Codes for Power On/Off & Video Switching. § Remembers Aspect for Each Input § Remembers Video Settings for each input § Service Sequence: Mute-1-8-2-Power |
|
HLN4365W, HLN437W, HLN5065W, HLM507W, HLN617W Manufactured: June x 2003 to Now Firmware Version: 214 or higher |
Electronics Features § All: DNIe, 3D Comb Filter, DD1010 § RF/Video/480i: Faroudja FLI2300, VPC3230 § Component/480p: AD9883 § PC: JAGADC Firmware Features § Discrete Codes for Power On/Off & Video Switching. § Remembers Aspect for Each Input § Remembers Video Settings for each input § Service Sequence: Mute-1-8-2-Power |
|
HLN4365W, HLN437W, HLN5065W, HLN507W, HLN617W Manufactured: ?? - June X 2003 Firmware Version: T-B3K??01-211 T-B3K??01-209 |
Electronics Features § All: DNIe, 3D Comb Filter, DD1010 § RF/Video/480i: Faroudja FLI2300, VPC3230 § Component/480p: AD9883 § PC: JAGADC Firmware Features § Discrete Codes for Power On / Off only. § Remembers Aspect for Each Input § Remembers Video Settings for each input § Service Sequence: Mute-1-8-2-Power |
|
HLN4365W, HLN437W, HLN5065W, HLN507W, HLN617W Manufactured: Early 2003 - ?? Firmware Version: T-B3K??01-204
|
Electronics Features § All: DNIe, 3D Comb Filter, DD1010 § RF/Video/480i: Faroudja FLI2300, VPC3230 § Component/480p: AD9883 § PC: JAGADC Firmware Features § No Discrete Codes § Remembers Aspect for Each Input § Remembers Video Settings for each input § Service Sequence: Mute-1-8-2-Power |
|
HLM617W Manufactured: Late 2002 to Early 2003 Firmware Version: T-B3K6101-201 |
Electronics Features § All: DNIe, 3D Comb Filter, DD1010 § RF/Video/480i: Faroudja FLI2300, VPC3230 § Component/480p: AD9883 § PC: JAGADC Firmware Features § No Discrete Codes § Does not remember Aspect for each input § Does not remember Video Settings for each input § Service Sequence: Mute-1-8-2-Power |
|
HLM4365W, HLM437W, HLM5065W, HLM507W Manufactured: Late 2002 to Early 2003 Firmware Version: |
Electronics Features § All: No DNIe, ?? § RF/Video/480i: Faroudja FLI2200, ?? § Component/480p: ? § PC: ? Firmware Features § No Discrete Codes § Does not remember Aspect for each input § Does not remember Video Settings for each input § Service Sequence: Mute-1-8-2-Power |
Threads on Finding a TV and Street Prices.
Some Retailers
Best Buy
Tweeter
Sears
PC Richards in NY Area has good prices. Requires some negotiation.
Some On-line Retailers
Threads on Placing and Stands, Ikea Stand, Target Stands
This is a tabletop TV with weight varying from 66 to 95 lbs.
The Stand and Height: You can put it on almost any surface. Since its maximum depth is 16 to 22" deep, it can also fit as part of a wall system. A popular setup is to place it on a stereo stand that houses your stereo and tuner components. Samsung sells stands that are specially made for these TV's: TR50L2S for 43", TRL5050 for 50", TRL612S for 61", TR46L5S for 46 inch and TR56L5S for 56 inch. They are about 20" high and 22" deep. See threads linked above for more stand ideas.
Room Conditions: This is a very bright set. We use one in a room where both sides are glass with no shades - and the picture is good even in broad daylight.
Viewing Distance: The optimum viewing distance for these sets seems to be somewhat subjective. You don't want to be so close to the TV so that you see the screen door effect, or the field of view becomes too large. Some sources also advise that watching SD programs require more distance. In our own experience, the minimum viewing distance is approximately twice the diagonal size of the picture:
Minimum Viewing Distance
43" set: 7' 2"
46" set: 7' 8"
50" set: 8' 4"
56" set: 9' 4"
61" set: 10' 2"
Heat Dissipation: Place the TV so that the fan vent in the back is not blocked and the heat can be effectively dissipated.
The best way for you to decide is to check it out for yourself.
The best thing We like about this TV is its versatility - We can use it as TV and as a large screen PC monitor. The more things We connect into the TV, the more our appreciation grows. So to get the most out of the TV 1) connect many sources into it 2) use the highest quality connection you can use - preferably DVI or VGA.
You should connect using the best type of connection available from your source device. Also the connection resolution should in general be set to 720p or 1280x720.
What Type of Connection (Info)
See DVI Guide and Tests for background information.
These are the ways you can connect your sources to your TV, from the most preferred to the least:
DVI: This is the best, and ideally the only way to connect to digital sources. It is highly desirable for HD Set-top-box, DVD player with DVI output, and HTPC. Unfortunately We only have 1 DVI port and DVI switches are not quite there yet.
VGA: A close second. It is a good one to use if your DVI port is already occupied. Since not many sources output VGA, HTPC is a logical device for this port.
Component: If you have no choice but to make an analog connection - component is the best one. Not really recommended for devices listed under DVI, but initially you may not have a choice. Note that it causes significant degradation of a digital signal.
S-Video, Composite: Use only when you have no other choice. S-Video is preferred over composite.
In general, set the source box resolution to 720p or (1280x720), unless another resolution is preferred for a specific reason.
Connection Resolution and Scaling
You really have 2 options in connecting your source device for the connection resolution.
Option 1 (Generally preferred): Set the connection resolution to 720p (1280x720). In this case, the source device scales the incoming signal to 720p – unless the incoming signal is 720p in which case there is no scaling. The TV does no scaling.
Option 2: This option should be used if your source box is inferior in scaling to the TV. You want to pass through the original signal un-scaled to your TV and let the TV do the scaling. If your source box has a pass-through resolution option, then this option is easily accomplished. Otherwise you have to keep changing the resolution connection for different incoming channels. See POST.
DVI Switching
See this section on DVI switching in the DVI, HDMI and HDCP Guide.
See this Guide to HDTV Services and Reception (Coming soon).
Your existing DVD player and almost all of the players in the market have a component output. Well, if you want to maximize your multi-thousand dollars investment in the TV, a component connection doesn't really cut it. You should consider investing at least $200 more to optimize your DVD playback. Your options are:
1) Get a DVD player with DVI output. Bravo D1 player available from www.vinc.us for $199 or Samsung 931 player available from many retailers for $249. We bought a Bravo D1 player. See DVD Players with DVI or HDMI (Coming soon). Also see DVD Players with DVI or HDMI – 2004 (Coming soon). Thread.
2) Or use an HTPC costing about $1000. See below.
We were amazed at the difference in picture quality when We switched from our progressive Sony DVD player to an HTPC. It approaches high def in clarity.
If you must use a DVD player with component out, use a non-progressive player instead of a progressive one - this is because the TV has superior de-interlacing/scaling circuitry compared to the DVD player. Connect it to Component 1 Input -- It is the only component input that accepts 480i/480p signals.
You should consider an HTPC as a serious accessory to this TV. See Build your own HTPC (Coming Soon).
You can connect your HTPC to Samsung HLN using DVI or a VGA input - DVI is preferable but not imperative. Because of a single DVI port, VGA is actually a very good option.
For best clarity of picture, you want to set your PC resolution to match the native resolution of the TV. In TV-wide mode, the resolution is 1280x720. However, this mode produces an overscan of the picture and crucial parts of your windows desktop become inaccessible. So alternative is to set the resolution to 1248x702 which produces no overscan. Both options are described here.
Connection Option 1 - 1280x720 with Overscan
Set your PC video resolution to 1280x720 – the native resolution of the TV. If you don't see this option on your Video card settings, install Powerstrip. You must also set your TV to TV-wide. So now you have 1x1 pixel mapping but with overscan. To mitigate overscan, you can set many programs window sizes. For example, open Internet Explorer, size it just right, and then close it. Next time you open it, it will open to the size and position at which it was last closed. See Threads.
Connection Option 2 - 1248x702 no Overscan
Use Powerstrip to define a custom
resolution 1248x702 and set your PC video card in this resolution. Select
this setting from your Windows Display Properties, Settings. Most likely this
would need a reboot. When your PC is operating on this setting, change
the TV aspect to
The following only applies to HLN sets. (In HLN-W1 sets, all component inputs accept all formats.)
Threads on Connecting Game Boxes
You need to know the trick to connect XBox's using a Component connection from the HD Pack. Xbox control panel is 480i, and the games could be any resolution. But there is no Component input on your TV that accepts all resolutions 480i to 1080p. It has created a minor inconvenience in hooking up XBox. There are many proposed solutions. Easiest one is to hook up through Component 1 for the control panel and then switch to component 2 or 3 for the actual game if the game is above 480p.
From Myki: With Xbox, the colors are sharper/brighter if you use the Xbox High Definition AV Pack, but it is also appears jagged. If We use the Xbox Advanced AV Pack connected to an S-Video input, the colors seem a little faded, but the jaggies disappear because of the Faroudja chip. Also, if the Xbox is modded (modified with a chip), then the dashboard using Evolution X (or similar) is at 480p so there are no problems in using Component 2 or 3.
If you don't want to play the limited number of hi-def games on XBox, you can connect it using S-video or composite inputs. To play Hi Def games, see this thread.
See this Post.
If you are satisfied with the two 15W speakers built into the TV, here is what you need to do:
§ For video sources RF A/B, S-Video/Composite 1-3, and Component 1-3 -- you can take the audio out from your source and connect it to the corresponding input on the TV.
§ For video sources VGA and DVI, there is a single shared audio input. So you have to find a way to switch between them.
But of course you want to use your x.1 audio system so that you can enjoy excellent video and sound. Here is what you need to do:
§ For video sources Component 1-3, VGA and DVI, connect the audio sources directly to your receiver. For these sources, there is no audio out from the TV.
§ For video sources RF A/B, S-Video/Composite 1-3 -- you can take the audio out from the TV and connect it to one input in your receiver.
Of course you need to switch audio in your receiver every time you switch video.
Power On
When you power on, it takes about 30 seconds to warm up before any picture shows. During power on and off sequence, it will play a melody which can be turned off using the menu setup.
Break-In Period
Break in the lamp with 100 hours use before adjusting User Menu and Service Menu.
User Menu Adjustments
The recommended adjustments for HLN series don't seem to have consolidated yet in this forum. This is where the ranges of opinions lie:
- Color Tone - Warm 2
- Adjustments:
§ Contrast: 90
§ Brightness: 50 to 75
§ Sharpness: 0-10
§ Color: 45 to 50, some report higher than 50
§ Tint: 40/60 or 50/50 are reported
§ For each type of input, you can select an appropriate aspect ratio. For Component, S-Video or Composite inputs the meaningful options are Wide, Normal and Panoramic. For DVI or VGA input the options are PC-wide with no overscan or TV-wide with overscan.
§ Modes - Wide,
§ There are no burn-in issues with this TV - so you can leave it on without fear of ddamaging the screen.
Aspect Control:
You can use the Aspect button on the remote to change the aspect ratio of the programs.
For RF A/B, Video 1-3, Component 1-3:
For DVI and VGA:
TV-wide: This is the preferred mode because it is the standard 1280x720 resolution and you get a 1x1 pixel mapping for the highest quality signal. Unfortunately in this mode, the TV overscans by a few pixels on all sides. When watching video, this is not a problem. When doing PC work, this is a problem because you loose crucial pixels at the corners and edges that are very important for windows work. So this mode is great for video but not as good for PC work. In video play, if you really want to see all the pixels, you can use a program like zoomplayer and zoom exactly to the point where you see the complete picture.
PC-wide: In this mode, the TV underscans your picture - you get narrow black frame around the picture. You don't get 1x1 mapping so the picture is not as sharp. However, you do get to see all the pixels. So this is the preferred mode for normal Windows PC work. When use the PC for video playback, We use PC-wide mode until point of actually starting the video, and then We switch to TV-wide mode.
Picture in Picture (PIP)
PIP can be either side by side, or in a PIP window in the bottom right corner in multiple sizes. When in "Large" or "Small" PIP mode you can use the "Locate" button to move the picture around the four corners of the screen.
DVI, VGA and Component inputs other than 480i can only be used as the main image; they cannot appear side by side or in the PIP window. Antenna/RF-A, Composite/S-Video, and Component 480i sources can be used side by side or in the PIP window.
Entering the Service Menu
With the TV off, press Mute-1-8-2-Power in sequence. The set now turns on in Service menu mode. You can use the remote to navigate through the menu.
Service Menu Adjustments
Threads on Service Menu Adjustments Post
The recommended adjustments for HLN series don't seem to have consolidated yet in this forum.
Calibration
Note that most important of these issues have now been addressed in the new HLN-W1 models that started shipping in February 2004.
Rainbows
Some people see rainbows on DLP TV's because of the color wheel. If you are one of the unfortunate ones, there is no solution. If you don't naturally see them, be careful to not read any reports on how to see them, because if you see them once, you will always notice them.
Video and Audio Synchronization
In some HLN sets, owners have been reporting audio/video synchronization problems – apparently caused by too long a video delay. It is not yet known which models or production batches may have this problem, or what circumstances are required to experience this problem. See Video delay on new Samsung DLP (Old Sound delay thread).
Internal Reflections and Ghosts - Reduced in both HLN and HLN-W1
In HLN models, if there is no picture on the TV, you can see an internal reflection on the screen surface - faint whitish area(s) on parts of the TV. Each unit or setup seems to have a different reflection pattern - its source has never been clearly identified. On both of our sets, it shows up as a faint white area in the middle of the TV. We never see the reflection when a picture is actually on, so it hasn't impacted our PQ. Some people have reported seeing it in dark scenes of a picture. This is probably the first item you check out when you get your new TV. Also check it out at a retailer to see how you react to it before you buy.
4The newer HLN and HLN-W1 models have coated lenses to reduce internal reflections.
Video Input Labeling - HLN Only, not HLN-W1
The various input sources cannot be labeled - e.g. Component 1 cannot be labeled as 'My DVD Player'.
4The new HLN-W1 models offer selection of input labels.
480i -> 1080i Input - HLN Only, not HLN-W1
In HLN Models, the TV has no component input that accepts signals that could range from 480i to 1080i. As an example, this causes a minor inconvenience with the XBox HD hookup. This issue has been addressed in 2004 HLP models.
4The new HLN-W1 models don't have this issue. All three component inputs accept all formats.
Pincushion
These sets have a slight pincushion (about ¼” on our 61” TV), the left and right edges of the picture are not exactly straight. You may only notice this when you are watching a 4:3 program in normal (non-stretch) mode. We don’t really notice it unless We are specifically looking for it.
Three Blinking Lights Problem
In early 2003, many sets had a problem with the projection lamp either getting unseated or getting fused. In later part of 2003, reports seem to have decreased significantly. The symptom is 3 blinking lights on the circular thingy in front. If you encounter this problem, the lamp assembly either needs to be reseated or replaced.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=190738
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=248445
RS 232 Port
At the present time, the RS-232 port is used for nothing. There was an expectation that the port will be used for firmware upgrades, but apparently this feature is not enabled on this port.
Picture Quality Complaints
Many people report PQ issues. Of course, there are many different problems and remedies. The source of problem may be 1) the original content 2) the box that is delivering/processing the content 3) the type of connection between the box and the TV 4) the adjustments in the TV. If the problem is in the original signal, there is not much the TV can do except amplifying it to a large size. Other problems may be resolvable. You should make sure that you have taken the following actions:
- Use DVI or VGA connection if you can. This is usually the surest remedy.
- If you cannot avoid using a Component connection for now, learn to live with it until you can switch to DVI.
- Make sure that you have the correct user menu settings.
- Make sure that you have made appropriate service mode adjustments.
- After these adjustments, if you experience a PQ problem with High Definition channels and your antenna reception is good, you may have a bad model.
If you have a problem with a specific standard definition channel/program - it may just be a crappy program / channel, its imperfection only made more prominent by the large TV size. If you have a problem with all SD channels, you either have a bad model or your expectations are too high.
SIR TS-160 - mysterious lines
If you use this HD tuner, you may notice a white blinking line at the bottom or top. It is a tuner problem - we solve it by using TV wide setting - the overscan hides the line.
Lamp Replacement
§ The lamp is rated at 6000 hours of life for 61" model and 8000 hours for the others. Replacement lamp costs $250. At the rate We are using the set, We expect to replace the lamp every 2-3 years. It is a good idea to buy and keep a spare lamp with you.
Other Maintenance
§ Samsung's warranty is for 1 year, parts and labor. Samsung will extend that to 15 months, if you send in the warranty card within 10 days.
§ Samsung warranty service is available in most areas. We are in southern CT and mine was just 30 minutes away. They came and picked up the set and returned it when We had a lamp failure. 800-747-5618
§ On new technology, it is sometimes prudent to buy extended warranty - and We did buy one myself.
§ However, the main problem reported on this set is the lamp failure and that is a DIY effort. So these sets in general are proving to be very reliable other than the lamp problem.
§ After 3-5 years, pay for a cleaning of the lenses on the light engine to clear any residue that may collect on the surface. No information on what these services costs at this point.
Samsung HLN Reviewed in Publications
ExtremeTech HDTV Quest: Samsung Takes the Crown + Gary Merson Interview
Fortune magazine favors Samsung DLP
Samsung HLN617W reviewed by Cnet
Samsung DLP HLM617W Review in PVM
Samsung DLP's are best selling TVs in their price range....
1. Deciding on Samsung HLN
A few questions before buying a Samsung DLP
Calling all Samsung owners, is the Samsung HLN4365W for me??????
SAMMY DLPs: Are they worth the extra $$$
pioneer elite vs. mitsu diamond vs. samsung dlp
Samsung DLP + TS160 Picture Quality
Pioneer Elite PRO-630HD vs. Samsung HLN61W- what to choose?
Philips 44" LCos w/Pixel Plus vs. Sammy 46" DLP
Mits 2004 65" or Sammy 61" DLP
Sammy 61" or the Pioneer Elite 57"
Sammy HLN v, Philips lcos v. Sony GW
Selling Sony KV40XBR700 for Sammy HLN617W?
choosing between sammy hln567, gwII, and pioneer elite pro-630hd...
Sony GW2 or Sammy HLN or wait?
Philips 44" LCos w/Pixel Plus vs. Sammy 46" DLP
samsung dlp hln61 vs grand wega II
Sony 60XBR800 DVI input is ANALOG??
Sony GWega XBR Looks better than HLN507W
My HDTV Quest, DLP -> Plasma -> LCOS
DLP Owners: How are sports and the Samsung DLP?
Best Display For Football - Samsung DLP or Toshiba LCOS
2. Samsung HLN Features
My Unofficial Guide to Samsung HLN Series DLP Sets
Concrete Information About The Samsung HLN Series (Update)
Its "Official" Samsung Website
Samsung DLP color wheel speed??
Samsung DLP > Is the Faroudja chip garbage?
3. Deciding on a Specific Samsung HLN Model
Thin Bezel 50" Samsung DLP in the future?
Poll: Future Purchase of Samsung HLN567W, HLN507W, or HLN 5065W - Advice Please
Sticky Thread on Samsung Model Differences?
What's the release date for the 56" Samsung DLP?
Question about new Samsung DLP sets...
Samsung HLN-507W: Black or Silver bezel???
differences between Samsung models
How do you get samsung service manuals?
Please post Sammy HLM/HLN Firmware versions
4. Finding a TV, Street Prices
Where to buy a Samsung DLP in Canada?
Best pricing for pre-order of Samsung HLN567W?
BestBuyPlasma and Samsung HLN617W
Best Internet Store to Buy Samsung DLP
In-home trial of GII or Samsung DLP in Twin Cities: Pipe dream?
Samsung HLN5065w - unavailable?
Samsung DLP upgrade in Canada?
No more Samsung DLPs in Costco, it seems
Samsung HLN467 and HLN567 in Canada?
Circuit City deals on Samsung HLM
Samsung HLN617 - Where can We see it in NYC area?
Deal: Sammy HLN437W at Circuit City for $3150 in SoCal
What did you pay for your Sammy DLP
Best price for Sammy HLN61 DLP
Looking for Sammy 5065 in Las Vegas area
Experience from Owners
Joe's Happy Fun Time HLN467 Experience
Samsung DLP Owners! Would you do it again?
Samsung HLN617W DLP is awesome
Most hours on his/her Samsung HLx507?
Samsung DLP - HLN507W - Non-videophile impressions
Review of the DLP Samsung HLN5065W from a common “normal” consumer
5. Placing/Installing Samsung HLN
A nice stand for Samsung HLN617W...
Optimal height for 50" GWII or Samsung DLPs?
Serious limitation of Samsung DLPs has me rethinking
Samsung HLN stand/CC speaker question
Measurements for back portion of 43" Samsung DLP
Looking for an A/V Rack to match my Sammy TV stand
Found a Stand for the Sammy 61"
Dimensions and stand for new Sammy 46"
Max Sammy DLP Screen Size for 8ft Viewing Distance?
6. Samsung HLN Connections and Setup
Guidance hooking up Samsung HLN4365W
Samsung DLP DVI Question/Dilemma
1080i or 720p? For Sammy DLP HLN
No more twinkling on Sammy DLP! Color banding also reduced!
Optimal use for DVI input on Sammy DLP?
Testing PQ on Digital Displays: DVI, VGA, Component, 1x1 mapping
Receiving: Cable, Satellite, OTA, PVR
ffdshow to clean up SD on Samsung DLP?
Anyone using Pioneer 3510HD DVI to Samsung DLP?
Samsung 507 and RGB connection
Confused in NYC: Time Warner's HD Box & Samsung
Samsung HLM "mode not supported"
Anyone in NYC with Time Warner and a Samsung DLP?
Samsung HLN5065W with Moto 5100... HELP!!!
Sammy DLP and HDTV Cable problem?
VCR recording w/Hughes SAT and Sammy 507W
Sammy 507 and Zenith hd-520 combo
Anyone have a Samsung DLP and a ReplayTV
DVD's
DVI Display of DVD on Samsung DLP
For HLN5065W, go with Bravo D1 or Samsung DVD HD931?
Bravo D1 vs. Samsung 931 shoot-out
Calling all sammy HLN and 931 owners
HLN507W w/ Sammy DVD-HD931 question - tread lightly, We'm a newb...
Do you watch DVDs on your Samsung DLP through component cables?
Samsung DLP and Component DVD problems
Maximizing laserdisc PQ through a Samsung DLP
PC's
Samsung HLx series DVI to HTPC
Using Sammy DLP with HTPC? Powerstrip timings, TV mode, etc???
Help With Samsung 61" DLP and Powerstrip
Gaming
Audio Setup
? Samsung HLN models sound out to A/V receiver?
Connecting a Subwoofer to a Samsung DLP
Can the built-in speakers on Samsung DLPs be disabled?
Samsung
DLP Owners
Remote Controls
Samsung HLN Remote code for Bravo
Sammy Dlp Owners/Remote Issue?
Location of IR receiver on Samsung DLPs
Can't locate Samsung 507W IR Sensor
Discreet codes for Samsung DLP TVs
Question about the Samsung DLP Discrete Codes
Samsung Discrete Codes - Catch 22 ?
Samsung HLN617W Discrete Codes
Def: Discrete Codes for Sammy DLP?
Samsung DLP discrete input codes(need testing)
Samsung HLN617W Discrete power codes found!
Samsung HLN5065W and Universal Remote
Help with the sammy hlm507w and Harmony sst-768
Sammy DLP and Harmony 768 Remote?
Does no one with a Sammy DLP have a Pronto?
7. Operating the TV
No Tint Controls On Samsung HLN5065W
Power Management on Samsung DLP as HTPC monitor
8. Samsung HLN Service Menu, Calibration
Samsung DLP -N- series tweaks thread
Samsung HLN617W Calibration/Settings
Default Samsung HLN Service Menu settings
Sammy HLN XXX : How many of you have it ISF calibrated it ?
Info/Opinions on calibration options please (Samsung HLN)
Need Samsung DLP Service Manual for ISF Calibration
9. Samsung HLN Problems and Issues
Samsung overscan problems fix??
Poll: Samsung DLP bulb lifespan? Survey!
Samsung DLP Cooling Fan Noise?
HELP! Samsung HLN507W DLP TV - is mine damaged or what?!?!
Just bought the new Samsung DLP.. and its already broke!!
Reduction of overscan on Sammy DLP sets?
Sammy DLP image ghosting (not internal reflections)
Question about DLP and HDTV Fast Pans
Why should a DLP have motion artifacts?
10. Samsung HLN Maintenance, Service, Upgrades
Samsung Upgrade Program Announced FOR DLP UNITS!!!
Poll: Samsung HLM437, 507, 617W Upgrades...
Power Buy for the Samsung DLP Lamp
Samsung DLP - how scratch resistant is the screen?
Wait time for Samsung DLP Repairs?
Poll: Samsung DLP Upgrade Pre-July 4 Poll
how would We ship a samsung 60" DLP cross country?
Poll: Samsung DLP upgrade survey
Samsung DLP Cleaning Dusty Lens?
What We learned while moving my Samsung
Durability of Samsung DLP screens
Protective Screen For Sammy DLP's?
Are the Sammy DLPs Safe to move around?
©2003-2004 DigiUpdate.com ● Contact us at info@digiupdate.com